Sadasiva Aiyar, J.

1. These Second Appeals have arisen out of suits brought against the same two defendants. The plaintiffs in these suits are the tenants in a shortriam village called Talambur in the Chingleput Taluq. The plaintiffs case in each suit is that the shrotriam Inam comes under the definition of Estate in the Madras Estates Land Act, and the plaintiff is the occupancy tenant of the lands entered in the A schedule to the plaint and that the plaintiff is entitled to demand from the defendants a pattah containing the terms stated in the "model" pattah forming the B schedule to each plaint. The defence of the two defendants who are shrotriamdars, is that the plaintiffs have no occupancy rights, that the defendants own both the Melvaram and the Kudivaram rights in the lands in the plaint village, that the village is not an estate under the Madras Estates Land Act, that the provisions of that Act do not apply to the suit lands and that the plaintiffs are not therefore entitled to demand pattahs from the defendants. As regards also the terms to be entered in the pattahs, there was dispute between the plaintiffs and the defendants. The Sub-Collector of Chingleput decid